Henning Roedel (ex-DPR) - from pilots on site to building on Mars
Construction meets cutting-edge robotics: Insider secrets from a 15-year veteran on revolutionizing the world's oldest industry. Dive into game-changing strategies, evolving tech, and the human side of building smarter
🤖 This week on BitBuilders - tl;dr:
- Construction robotics veteran Dr. Henning Rodel shares insights from his 15-year career in innovation
- The importance of understanding construction site dynamics for robotics startups
- Key strategies for successful pilot programs and scaling in the construction industry
- The future of construction robotics and its business models: from RaaS to Hardware + SaaS models
"Construction is like a show me industry. So you got to show them that you're going to be reliable. You're going to be there."
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From Lab to Job Site: Navigating the Construction Robotics Landscape
When it comes to innovation in the construction industry, few have the depth and breadth of experience that Dr. Henning Rodel brings to the table. With a career spanning 15 years across various sectors - from the halls of NASA to startups like Alice Technologies and most recently at DPR Construction - Henning has been at the forefront of bringing cutting-edge technology to one of the world's oldest industries.
In this dense conversation, we dive deep into the world of construction robotics, exploring the challenges, opportunities, and strategies for success in this rapidly evolving field. Henning's unique perspective, shaped by his academic background and hands-on industry experience, offers invaluable insights for both startups and established players in the construction tech space.
The Path to Construction Innovation
Henning's journey into construction innovation is a testament to the power of curiosity and interdisciplinary thinking. After completing his master's in construction at Stanford, he found himself captivated by the possibilities of Virtual Design and Construction (VDC). This fascination led him to pursue a PhD focused on developing novel concrete for space applications - a project that perfectly encapsulates the intersection of cutting-edge research and practical construction challenges.
"What I love about space and thinking about building in outer space is it forces you to rethink how you build here today," Henning explains. This approach of tackling extreme scenarios to drive innovation on Earth is a recurring theme in his work and a valuable lesson for aspiring innovators.
From Space to Earth: Translating Innovation
The transition from developing space-age materials to tackling earthbound construction challenges might seem like a leap, but for Henning, it was a natural progression. His experience at Alice Technologies and later at DPR Construction allowed him to bridge the gap between academic research and practical industry applications.
At DPR, Henning found himself at the forefront of implementing robotic solutions on construction sites. His role as the robotics lead gave him a unique vantage point to observe and influence the adoption of these technologies in real-world scenarios.
Understanding the Construction Ecosystem
One of the key takeaways from our conversation is the importance of understanding the construction ecosystem. Henning emphasizes that construction is not just about buildings - it's about people, processes, and deeply ingrained industry practices.
"Construction is like a show me industry," Henning notes. "So you got to show them that you're going to be reliable. You're going to be there." This insight is crucial for any tech company looking to break into the construction space. It's not enough to have a great product; you need to demonstrate its value in the field and build trust with the workers who will be using it.
The Human Factor in Construction Tech
While much of the discourse around construction technology focuses on efficiency and cost-saving, Henning brings a refreshing perspective by emphasizing the human factor. He recalls his time at DPR, where he was "looking for tools for my colleagues" - the carpenters, cement masons, and finishers who were on the front lines of construction work.
This empathy for the end-users of construction technology is critical. As Henning points out, these are the people "waking up at like four or five in the morning, driving an hour, hour and a half to get to the job site." Any technology that aims to succeed in this industry needs to make their lives easier, safer, and more productive.
Navigating the Pilot Process
For startups looking to break into the construction industry, Henning offers valuable advice on navigating the pilot process. He advocates for short, focused pilots rather than lengthy, project-wide implementations.
"Don't accept a pilot for an entire project," Henning warns. "That's like the worst thing you can do." Instead, he recommends "sorties" - limited engagements of a week or two that allow for quick iteration and demonstration of value.
This approach not only helps startups refine their product more quickly but also aligns with the realities of construction project budgets and timelines. Henning's experience at DPR, where they created a dedicated fund for innovation pilots, offers a model for how construction companies can foster innovation without disrupting their core operations.
The Four Commandments of Construction Management
When it comes to measuring the success of new technologies in construction, Henning points to what he calls "the four commandments of project management": cost, schedule, quality, and safety. These key performance indicators (KPIs) form the foundation for evaluating any new tool or process in the industry.
However, Henning also notes that in today's landscape, three additional factors are gaining importance: sustainability, supply chain efficiency, and user experience. This expanded set of criteria reflects the evolving priorities of the construction industry and provides a roadmap for startups looking to position their products effectively.
The Future of Construction Robotics Business Models
As the construction robotics field matures, the question of business models becomes increasingly important. Henning provides insights into the evolution from Robotics as a Service (RaaS) models to what he sees as the future: a Hardware plus SaaS (Software as a Service) approach.
While RaaS models have been popular in the early stages of the industry, Henning believes they may lead to a "race to the bottom" in terms of pricing. Instead, he sees potential in a model where robust hardware is paired with sophisticated software solutions, potentially opening up new sales channels through partnerships with equipment rental companies.
This transition, however, is not without its challenges. As Henning points out, "you've probably built your company with a pretty heavy robotics tech stack. And now you have to hire all of these software engineers to build software" Navigating this shift will be a key challenge for construction robotics companies in the coming years.
Looking to the Future
As our conversation with Henning draws to a close, it's clear that the field of construction robotics is at an exciting inflection point. The technologies are maturing, the industry is becoming more receptive, and the potential for transformative impact is enormous.
Henning's parting advice to aspiring entrepreneurs in this space is both encouraging and practical: "Reach out. Find me on LinkedIn. I'm happy to connect you into the construction world." It's a reminder that despite all the advanced technology, construction remains an industry built on relationships and real-world impact.
Key Takeaways:
- Empathy for end-users is crucial in developing successful construction technologies.
- Short, focused pilots are more effective than lengthy, project-wide implementations.
- The "four commandments" of cost, schedule, quality, and safety remain the core KPIs for construction innovation.
- The future of construction robotics may lie in Hardware plus SaaS models, rather than pure RaaS approaches.
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